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How the base radio works

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#1 ·
I played with a new Sport RL at my dealership at length the other day. I wanted to see how exactly the base radio works as I wait for my RTL AWD to come the end of August.
I searched and did not see a dedicated thread to explain to would be buyers who have not test drove an RL on what to expect from the base radio that does not have the cool android and app features of the higher end touchscreen unit.

I am coming from a 2011 F-150 with a non-navigation system with "SYNC". I use a USB stick loaded with all my itunes songs. SYNC allows me to speak the track name, artist name or album with voice commands and it finds and plays that request. I really like it as it is intuitive and hands free. The USB stick i use has all songs in one large folder. I do not use my phone to play music.

Now in the Ridgeline with base radio, they have one USB port in the console. I like this better than how the higher end models make you use a port out in the open by the dashboard. I brought along my USB stick to see how the radio sounds and how I can find songs on it. I wanted to compare this to my Ford that I am trading in. This thread is not about which radio is better, but just to give people an idea of what to expect. I feel I am downgrading a bit in the voice command department, however the sound quality of the RL is better than my Ford even after I upgraded some door speakers and added tweeters.

The Honda owners manual kinda sucks as it really does not tell you much about the audio system's USB functionality/ There are NO voice commands for the audio through the USB. Not sure if you can control anything through a phone with the phone voice commands as I did not pair a phone to it. Because I had all my music in one folder, the radio would only allow me to scroll through the ENTIRE USB stick in the order the files were in it. For me this was by date added I think as it was not even alphabetically. If you wanted to shuffle songs, I could NOT do that by artist or album as it only shuffled the entire folder (which was every song on the stick). So you would need to create a new folder for every artist or album on the USB stick if you wanted the radio to allow more specific searches.

Basically I am a bit disappointed as I cannot find a specific track or artist with the radio buttons or steering wheel controls unless I repeatedly scroll through EVERY song, or if I spend hours making folders for everything on the USB stick. Seems like a USB stick is not a good way to go unless you never want to search for specific music and just want to let the radio play tracks in order or via shuffle.

My F-150 was way easier to use the SYNC with a USB stick, but it did NOT like having an ipod connected to its USB port. I would get errors all the time. I did not have my ipod with me during this ridgeline test to see how much easier it is to search tracks or artists. I am really hoping that it is easier to do with an ipod hooked up compared to a USB stick, but with the small number of buttons, I don't know that it will be very easy. I enjoy telling my Ford SYNC system to play "track XXX" and it does. I think even with the ipod hooked up, it will take tons of button presses and many glances at the screen to see if I can find a certain song.

I am hoping to test the ipod connection out early this week as long as the RL at my dealership does not get sold before then. Maybe if some other members here have used the base radio with their ipods, they can add their experience on how it works to control the ipod in order to complete this thread?

Maybe the voice commands for the phone would be better if I put all my music on the phone? I am not sure because as mentioned above, I did not pair a phone and I have never used my phone in my F150 as a music source...
 
#3 ·
Thanks for the link to manual as it allowed me to re-read the base audio (called color audio). This made me feel like my original post, while long, was still worthwhile. You really don't get alot of info out of the manual for using a USB stick. It tells you about searching folders and how it will NOT play any audio files other than itunes AAC files. No one usually thinks about how the USB stick normally never contains folders if you simply copy tracks out of itunes to it.

The manual does give me a little more hope of more functionality when using an ipod and if music is in a phone via bluetooth, however it also confuses me on how much voice commands I get with the base radio. Looks like 90% of all voice commands outside of using your phone ad only available on the upper trim level radio.

This is where I need to go back to the dealer to test the capability with an ipod and maybe I need to link my phone just to see unless someone else can confirm how these two audio sources work in this radio. Sorry if I seem to ramble, I am just trying gather some basic info on this base radio and hopefully it helps at least on potential buyer!

With a radio that has no CD player and only allows some type of auxiliary input to play music outside of an FM radio, I expect the unit to function well. From what I have tested so far, it seems this unit makes you use the far right dial on the radio A LOT with limited use of the steering wheel control buttons and just as limited capability via voice commands.
 
#6 ·
Old technophobe here with an RT-S. I'm still getting over the loss of cassette players, and now no CD either...I'm finally being forced into the 21st century. My print owners manual only has 162 pages, so the linked manual is helpful. I rarely listen to anything in my car except audio books on road trips. Last night I managed to subscribe to Audible and downloaded an audio book to my i phone 5. It works fine plugged in to the usb or by bluetooth but has to be controlled by the phone. I was surprised by how good the radio sounds. RZRPilot, I'm interested in hearing how your experiment goes with an iPod.
 
#7 ·
the voice control is complete garbage in my RTS and fully as bad as the setup in my old 2007 TL.

My 2013 Accord base radio understood nearly everything I said but 'Call Vicki ..... Mobile' in the RTS does everything BUT call Vicki.

If you hit Siri on the phone it does mute the audio and use the handsfree microphone, which works fine but misses the point of the steering wheel control (there is no Siri Eyes Free)
 
#9 ·
So the ipod works ok in the USB port. It shows album artwork, there are no delays and it sounds good. You can select Artist, Album, or playlists and once selected, the items are in the order the ipod keeps them such as alphabetized or in the case of playlists: the date added I think. Using the steering wheel control you can skip ahead or back but say you want to search for an artist and you are at "A" and want to get to "T", you better just do this on the screen of the ipod as you will be doing alot of pushes on the buttons. This is a little frustrating coming from a Ford SYNC system where all my music was voice commands on both ipod and USB memory stick. Because this system is a bit "dumb" you are forced to look down and mess with your music player and/or phone which is not safe.

Using a USB memory stick in the ridgeline (mentioned in my first post) is more cumbersome than the ipod as it will only allow you to play everything in the order the files are on the stick.

No voice control for audio- only when you have a bluetooth phone hooked up will it allow voice commands. I may need to try and figure out how to work it, because the system does not recognize my commands for dialing the phone at all. It prompts you to say "Dial John Doe" and I say Dial and the name that is saved in my phone (just as I was able to do in my F-150 w/ SYNC) and the ridgeline immediately tells me it does not recognize my command. The lady command voice is snippy and jumps on you. I just want to reach in the dash and slap her*, so I am looking forward to getting my Pioneer head unit installed cause I cannot make any hands free calls right now.


*I am not for domestic violence, I just said that cause I am frustrated with the voice commands :wink:
 
#10 ·
It prompts you to say "Dial John Doe" and I say Dial and the name that is saved in my phone (just as I was able to do in my F-150 w/ SYNC) and the ridgeline immediately tells me it does not recognize my command.
Someone else posted about this same issue a few weeks ago. If memory serves, the cure was to un-pair the phone from the radio and then pair it again. There may even have been a restart in between those two operations.
 
#12 ·
I feel as though Honda intentionally made the 5" radio worse than it needed to me, like went to a supplier and they said "this is our 5-inch spec" and Honda said, could you please make it have fewer features? Look at the Subaru "base stereo" for it's Legacy / Outbacks, does way more better, and we have a 5-year old Legacy with a 5-inch screen that blows out Honda's in every area except hands-free calling.

IMHO, the reason to go with the 5" is to swap it out for something better than the RTL-T+ has for far less money.
 
#13 ·
Exactly why they did it, to force you into a higher trim. It's also why the E and BE are the only ones with a moonroof and sliding rear glass. Trying to force you to buy top of the line to get one thing you want. Like a spoiled girlfriend or wife making financial demands on their significant other, most just give in. Then there are those of us that go the other way and tell her to GTFO! I've said all along when I saw these trims, fine! I'll buy a lower end model and put my own stereo in. If they want to put the moonroof, which I want, only on the higher end trims, then that doesn't work for me. I'll buy a lower end model or not buy one at all.

The trims and the QC issues stalled me enough that I figured out I can get a 3.6L outback, pretty well equipped (leather, moonroof, etc) for about the same price that a RT/RTS AWD is going for.